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thought would have seen them during election cycle. he thinks this will wake them from their slumber. >> i think it will be way bigger and i won't be just the tea party, it will be everybody in the country. if we go off the fiscal cliff, guess who is disproportionately affected. the low-income people. the low-income couples, their tax will go up 9,000%. these are people who voted for obama who will get whacked. martha: who will they blame? i want to show you a poll that was on "hot air" this morning, then we'll get to bob. it says which approach do you prefer. to reduce the deficit. this poll is 800 people who voted for president obama. they are split in the middle. 41% say mostly tax increases with some spending cuts. but the same number want mostly spending cuts with some tax increases. 5% of these obama voter say they want tax increases only. but 10% of the people who voted for obama in this policy they want spending cuts only. bob, where are we here? >> it looks a little confusing except when you look at history of polling. norquis
thought would have seen them during election cycle. he thinks this will wake them from their slumber. >> i think it will be way bigger and i won't be just the tea party, it will be everybody in the country. if we go off the fiscal cliff, guess who is disproportionately affected. the low-income people. the low-income couples, their tax will go up 9,000%. these are people who voted for obama who will get whacked. martha: who will they blame? i want to show you a poll that was on "hot...
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and post election blues. that's the subject of this evening's talking points memo many believe the president has the upper hand in the fiscal cliff negotiations. if we gopher 00 cliff republicans think they will get most of the blame. if they give in to tax hikes conservatives believe they will infuriate their base. senator rand paul even believes that since they have such little leverage in the talks of president obama. well, republicans should just get out of the way and let the democrats raise taxes as much as they want. and then let the president take responsibility for party of high taxes. now can i understand senator paul's thinking especially given the fact that the president has already announced ahead of his mano a mano meeting can john boehner that he won't concede an inch on tax cuts. this republican defeatism news broke of jim demint's departure from the senate yesterday. is he a tea party warrior and demint is a hero to part of the g.o.p.'s 2010 midterm route. now he is off to head off a think ta
and post election blues. that's the subject of this evening's talking points memo many believe the president has the upper hand in the fiscal cliff negotiations. if we gopher 00 cliff republicans think they will get most of the blame. if they give in to tax hikes conservatives believe they will infuriate their base. senator rand paul even believes that since they have such little leverage in the talks of president obama. well, republicans should just get out of the way and let the democrats...
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is the consequence of election for a president who campaigned hiking on the back of the rich, i don't like it but, to fold. >> this is a hypocrisy level, thee say this is the right thing to do, but who gets crushed on the higher taxes? small businesses. i don't care what anyone said, president said that 97% of small businesses do not get hit by this, that is if you count the guy into mows your lawn all by himself, and consultants, but those who are hiring -- >> i don't blame the president at all, to ram it down the people's throat. >> we need though -- -- >> my fear is that wall street, acquiesce it knows we'll have far reaching problem. >> of course, like money managers all of a sudden, they are the king, they are self preservation is sad. neil: what are they afraid of? >> they want to keep their money, they want to be the mack daddy. we need the cut and flash s.w.a.t. team,,cutting across the board. >> that is an interesting question, what are they afraid of. the president has a good hand they do not believe -- >> a good hand not a really good hand. >> i tell you what they think, th
is the consequence of election for a president who campaigned hiking on the back of the rich, i don't like it but, to fold. >> this is a hypocrisy level, thee say this is the right thing to do, but who gets crushed on the higher taxes? small businesses. i don't care what anyone said, president said that 97% of small businesses do not get hit by this, that is if you count the guy into mows your lawn all by himself, and consultants, but those who are hiring -- >> i don't blame the...
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and on election day, voters in three states approved same-sex marriage. "outfront," mckay coppins, tim carney and maria cardona, cnn contributor and democratic strategist. this is kind of big news in all of this. tim, you saw the polls. now the supreme court will get involved in this. should this signal something to the republican party? should they say it's reached this level, we need to rethink our position on this? >> polls are one thing. there's also the fact most states don't have gay marriage yet and most of those that do, it was not put in by the will of the people. i'm a marylander. we did -- our state did vote for gay marriage. most of them had to do with judges ruling. if the supreme court does for gay marriage what it did for abortion and roe v. wade and said, no, this is not in the hands of the people. we're going to say there's gay marriage, that would do a lot to fire up the republican base and could turn this issue on its head and it could become a big winner for republicans because they'd feel disenfranchised. >> what about the flip side?
and on election day, voters in three states approved same-sex marriage. "outfront," mckay coppins, tim carney and maria cardona, cnn contributor and democratic strategist. this is kind of big news in all of this. tim, you saw the polls. now the supreme court will get involved in this. should this signal something to the republican party? should they say it's reached this level, we need to rethink our position on this? >> polls are one thing. there's also the fact most states...
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i listen to speaker boehner say the day after the election, revenue is on the table. the american people want to compromise and make washington work. he said it againand put out a specific offer. all we ve heard from the president is a hard-line was no negotiation on the tax side and not one wrd about the entitlement reforms th would have to match that for this plan to make any sense. and it is that absnce of lead on the spending side and unwillingness to make compromises that will actually get deals done and have washington auction again th i think our marks against this lame-duck session. lou: you have projected, the action form has projected 10 million prospect of possibly 10 million people losing jobs, 10 percent unemployment. a 4% reduction in gdp if we go over that cliff. correct? >> that is absolutely right. i mean, this is a big tax increase. it's a big spending cut. more importantly, if you look at the debt ceiling debate, we saw a sharp drop in consumer confidence and we saw that today in the december number. a sharp drop in consumer confidence, and you also
i listen to speaker boehner say the day after the election, revenue is on the table. the american people want to compromise and make washington work. he said it againand put out a specific offer. all we ve heard from the president is a hard-line was no negotiation on the tax side and not one wrd about the entitlement reforms th would have to match that for this plan to make any sense. and it is that absnce of lead on the spending side and unwillingness to make compromises that will actually get...
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because you elect you. you elect scott. now they did elect liberal senator there and they're all over the place. i just don't know why florida, virginia, ohio, colorado -- colorado, i kind of know. why the republican message didn't resonate. i don't understand why the republican message did not resonate in those states. >> well, i can't speak to those other states in detail but i can tell you about florida that there is a tremendous amount of anxiety from people that feel like they are never going to make it to the middle class. they are never going to move ahead in life and leave their children better off. our challenge for those of us like me who believe and know that limited government is the right way forward and that the free enterprise system is the only solution of doing a job of communicating that taking our principles and applying it to their hopes and dreams. our take on this is spret were straightforward. it's not by making rich people poorer it's by making poor people richer. that's what our government is all ab
because you elect you. you elect scott. now they did elect liberal senator there and they're all over the place. i just don't know why florida, virginia, ohio, colorado -- colorado, i kind of know. why the republican message didn't resonate. i don't understand why the republican message did not resonate in those states. >> well, i can't speak to those other states in detail but i can tell you about florida that there is a tremendous amount of anxiety from people that feel like they are...
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elections have consequences. at that right now. lou: i think we all agree about conseqnces. certainly. your thoughts on this? does it look to you right now like we are going to avoid this fiscal cliff? the president, but the brilliant idea? it's interesting how he does this. he initiates an ultmatum and the goes passive aggressive on everyone and withdraws from the field. it's really a bizarre and intriguing strategy which obviously has completely confounded republican leaders. >> yes, and the polls show that the american people are prud and -- probably going to blend republicans now matter what happen. lou: slightly. >> therefore i think that is what you're seeing with president obama'sttitude here. lou: does irritate you to think that they are going to blame the republicans denied republicans are basical saying, you know, we are going to step back because you're going to blame us instead of coming up with a answer, a rejoinder to the president's going after them. and they don't have a strategy. they don't have a message. they don't want anybody to think bay of them. >> he
elections have consequences. at that right now. lou: i think we all agree about conseqnces. certainly. your thoughts on this? does it look to you right now like we are going to avoid this fiscal cliff? the president, but the brilliant idea? it's interesting how he does this. he initiates an ultmatum and the goes passive aggressive on everyone and withdraws from the field. it's really a bizarre and intriguing strategy which obviously has completely confounded republican leaders. >> yes,...
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that's why you were elected. part two is first of all, you have the debt ceiling coming up. they have a lot of power. they should never surrender their constitutional authority to the president. why don't they just pass their bill? give it to the president. extend all the bush tax cuts. would that be a good idea, or do you have a better idea? >> no. i think they should. i think the president will play because everybody now including, as you said, boehner himself is talking about the rich in sort of obama terms. obama will come back and say no, we're going to eliminate the tax cuts for the rich. we're just going to give them to the middle class, and that's where they're ahead in public opinion, but i think they're not going to have i any choice. republicans have to stick together. they have to resist the pressure of the white house, and if obama wants to take them over a cliff and wants to inherit a new recession which will destroy his second term, i think they ought to say if that's what you want, mr. president, we'll just do it. >> well said as always. charles krauthammer,
that's why you were elected. part two is first of all, you have the debt ceiling coming up. they have a lot of power. they should never surrender their constitutional authority to the president. why don't they just pass their bill? give it to the president. extend all the bush tax cuts. would that be a good idea, or do you have a better idea? >> no. i think they should. i think the president will play because everybody now including, as you said, boehner himself is talking about the rich...
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do you expect the governor to seek re-election in 2014? secondly in pennsylvania you are challenged to a republican governor and pennsylvania has a long tradition to have republican governors serve two-full terms. >> i think both california and pennsylvania are great opportunities for us. obviously the governor in california is doing a great job in california. he is making tough decisions i was impressed that he was able to win the referendum that that gave californians a choice that you can pay higher income tax to the yelt or you continue to slash educational -- he won that referendum. california voters voted for higher income tax on the wealthy in order to have an educated work force. that is huge. he does intend to run again. he's doing an extraordinary job out there. i was honored that he momed me to be a chair. we expect him to run and we expect him to win when he does run. we're excited about that race. in pennsylvania, another example of a tea party governor who isn't getting results. now, as you know the pennsylvania society met t
do you expect the governor to seek re-election in 2014? secondly in pennsylvania you are challenged to a republican governor and pennsylvania has a long tradition to have republican governors serve two-full terms. >> i think both california and pennsylvania are great opportunities for us. obviously the governor in california is doing a great job in california. he is making tough decisions i was impressed that he was able to win the referendum that that gave californians a choice that you...
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>>> the first jobs report comes out since the election. far from the east coast, one midwestern community has positive thoughts about their community. largely because of the landscape developing at an astonishing speed. >>> the pioneer spirit is burning brightly. much of it occurs in a few small neighborhoods. >> i can go local. >>> mike farmer is the ceo of leap 2. a company with a highly advanced mobile search app. >> people stop by the office every day. it's fascinating. >> that must feel pretty good. >> yeah, it does. >> one big reason these companies are clustering here is that google chose this neighborhood to launch its much anticipated super high speed internet connection. 100 times faster than most internet links, google fiber allows massive video data and graphic files to move at astonishing speed, permitting development of whole new applications. >> this is exactly what you wanted. >> that's exactly it. we wanted local entrepreneurs to take advantage of the faster speeds google fiber would bring, and develop. the skies the limit
>>> the first jobs report comes out since the election. far from the east coast, one midwestern community has positive thoughts about their community. largely because of the landscape developing at an astonishing speed. >>> the pioneer spirit is burning brightly. much of it occurs in a few small neighborhoods. >> i can go local. >>> mike farmer is the ceo of leap 2. a company with a highly advanced mobile search app. >> people stop by the office every day....
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it's the job the american people elected them to do and the american people expect results. they want compromise. in fact, two separate cnn/orc polls, in those polls, an overwhelming number of people, 72%, said both sides should do a better job working together in general. so the people, that's you, want compromise. yet this is how the men and women on capitol hill, the men and women you elected to work for you, have responded over the last 48 hours. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> what we can't do is sit here trying to figure out what works for them. >> the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> it's pretty clear to me they've made a political calculation. >> if their ideas are different from ours, we can't guess what they are. >> we look forward to the time when they are specific. >> they need to be more specific. >> some specificity from republicans. >> some of their specifics. >> that's a decision that lies in the hands of the republicans. >> i
it's the job the american people elected them to do and the american people expect results. they want compromise. in fact, two separate cnn/orc polls, in those polls, an overwhelming number of people, 72%, said both sides should do a better job working together in general. so the people, that's you, want compromise. yet this is how the men and women on capitol hill, the men and women you elected to work for you, have responded over the last 48 hours. >> i think we're going over the cliff....
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whatever happens in the elections, israel faces enormous challenges. on thursday last week, the united nations general assembly voted to recognize palestine as a non-member state. the cease-fire with hamas in gaza is fragile and temporary. the possibility of a nuclear iran has been called an existential threat to israel and throughout the middle east dictatorship which is could once be relied on to ensure israel's security are being replaced by unpredictable populist movements. i am pleased to have ehud olmert back at this table. welcome. >> thank you. >> rose: do you disagree with anything i just said? >> (laughs) >> rose: (laughs) well, like -- that prime minister netanyahu is the favorite to win reelection. >> that's right. >> rose: that's clear. >> that's the appearance at this moment, yes. >> rose: you have not decided whether you're going to reenter politics. >> right. >> rose: if you did you would run in kadima? >> well, the idea was that if i run it will be in a group of a few different factions together. >> rose: where do you see israel at thi
whatever happens in the elections, israel faces enormous challenges. on thursday last week, the united nations general assembly voted to recognize palestine as a non-member state. the cease-fire with hamas in gaza is fragile and temporary. the possibility of a nuclear iran has been called an existential threat to israel and throughout the middle east dictatorship which is could once be relied on to ensure israel's security are being replaced by unpredictable populist movements. i am pleased to...
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you get a sixth year itch election. the second midterm election of a two-term presidency. historically, in most cases it has been an unpleasant circumstance for the incumbent white house party. now here's the interesting fact. since world war ii, in the sixth itch election, the out of power party in the white house has picked up exactly six seats in the senate. what would it take for public publics to take over the senate in 2014? six seats. but they actually have to meet the historical average. that is going to be the challenge for republicans, to pick themselves up, dust themselves off, appeal to a broader electorate and focus on getting good candidates for 2014. jon: as you point out, they didn't exactly get the job done last time around. you are correct, 20 seats to be defended by republicans in 2014. 13 -- i'm sorry. could you take over. 20 by democrats, 13 by republicans. >> we've got two years to get it right, jon. don't worry about it. jon: thank goodness for your crystal ball. jenna: there will be a quiz on all
you get a sixth year itch election. the second midterm election of a two-term presidency. historically, in most cases it has been an unpleasant circumstance for the incumbent white house party. now here's the interesting fact. since world war ii, in the sixth itch election, the out of power party in the white house has picked up exactly six seats in the senate. what would it take for public publics to take over the senate in 2014? six seats. but they actually have to meet the historical...
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in this last election the photo i.d. law which as you mentioned is the one of the toughest in the country worked well. 2.2 million cast ballots. of those only 838 forgot to bring a photo i.d. to the polls. that et cetera fewer than 1 in 1,000 voters. they were giive provisional ballots. they came n the vote of election and make their vote out. to date we are not finding anyone who actually didn't have a photo i.d. the bottom line is it's a common sense easy way to prevent some forms of voter fraud and it is a fact that exists. voter fraud is very real in the america. >> you said 235 claims of voter fraud who is making this allegations. >> he'll 235 verified cases been reported between 1997 and 2010. >> and you so -- so you had reported to whom by whom? are they real? are you sure of that? >> yeah. well, and these reported to the county clerks and the cases that couldn't be, you know, were not credible were not included. credible reports of voter fraud to the county clerks or to the secretary of state's office my predeces
in this last election the photo i.d. law which as you mentioned is the one of the toughest in the country worked well. 2.2 million cast ballots. of those only 838 forgot to bring a photo i.d. to the polls. that et cetera fewer than 1 in 1,000 voters. they were giive provisional ballots. they came n the vote of election and make their vote out. to date we are not finding anyone who actually didn't have a photo i.d. the bottom line is it's a common sense easy way to prevent some forms of voter...
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representation and articulation of goals to an elected -- elected -- a transitional government and then an elected government, both on the national and the local level, and that's -- you don't see that elsewhere, at least not in that striking as a fashion. in the rest of the book, i talk about the personality of gadhafi, what motivated him, and people argue that the personalities of the dictators themselves don't matter. in the case of libya, that's not quite true. gadhafi was a mercurial, i believe a quite intelligent person who had certain fixations and -- i'll try to be diplomatic here because -- [laughter] there's a lot of strangeness there that motivated his behavior in ways which i think were so bizarre that many of the people who are looking at this from the u.s. policy side -- felt, in a way, they were accustomed to the way of thinking about things, and that posed problems when you try to anticipate what he was going to do or respond to him. for example, you know, after the 1986 bombing in benghazi and tripoli, gadhafi was rumored to have gone into a tremendous funk for a period
representation and articulation of goals to an elected -- elected -- a transitional government and then an elected government, both on the national and the local level, and that's -- you don't see that elsewhere, at least not in that striking as a fashion. in the rest of the book, i talk about the personality of gadhafi, what motivated him, and people argue that the personalities of the dictators themselves don't matter. in the case of libya, that's not quite true. gadhafi was a mercurial, i...
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and look, i got re-elected. so, you know, what's so hard about me continuing to do that and blaming it on them because obviously i'm very good at that. and that's basically where he's going here. and the republicans, i think, are not very good poker players. first of all they signaled that they are kind of really reluctant to go over the cliff, and i think if you are in this kind ever a showdown you have to say, you know, bring it. come on. >> you'll do it. they will get blamed for it, though, if that happens. there's no question. the president is already signaling that. that wouldn't be a pleasant outcome for them. would you say they should suggest to the president they would be willing to do that and then maybe he would give 2nd end? >> i think they have to show that he is in negotiations and that he has to give and they are willing to give and if they just say we are so afraid of getting blamed for that, of course he's going to roll right over them. >> kim, where do you think the republicans, where should the
and look, i got re-elected. so, you know, what's so hard about me continuing to do that and blaming it on them because obviously i'm very good at that. and that's basically where he's going here. and the republicans, i think, are not very good poker players. first of all they signaled that they are kind of really reluctant to go over the cliff, and i think if you are in this kind ever a showdown you have to say, you know, bring it. come on. >> you'll do it. they will get blamed for it,...
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he knows what happens in mid-term elections. what he's saying is give me what i want now and i'll talk about it later but i'll talk about it at a time when it is next to impossible politically for either party to do anything that doesn't absolutely throw their respective bases. megyn: you had a power play piece yesterday that was all about how the president in your view is intent here not so much on winning these negotiations if they are winnable, but on embarrassing the republicans, bringing them down to their knees. can you explain that? >> he doesn't just want the taxes to go up on top earners. what he wants to do is shatter his political opposition so he can win larger victories later so he can suffer fewer defeats in the mid-term election. he sees this as the moment when he has maximal manage having just been reelected. he figures he can break their will and he can be in a stronger position after that. but as you mentioned before, if he misses or even if he succeeds what you see happening the economy right now and what you
he knows what happens in mid-term elections. what he's saying is give me what i want now and i'll talk about it later but i'll talk about it at a time when it is next to impossible politically for either party to do anything that doesn't absolutely throw their respective bases. megyn: you had a power play piece yesterday that was all about how the president in your view is intent here not so much on winning these negotiations if they are winnable, but on embarrassing the republicans, bringing...
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and using the word revenge after the election. this is the left this, is how they thing. van jones quoted as saying talking about overthrowing the free market system in america and broadly in the west. he said, and i quote we're going to change the whole system. we need a new system. what do you think he means by that? >> let me show another cut from the same speech. >> the president puts forward help for veterans. the republican party votes against help for veterans. we don't care how much these kids suffer overseas. when they come home, let them suffer. we'll vote against them. let the bodies pile up on the beach. and you will face with the prospect of that kind of treachery. treason prevailing in america. >> treason and let the bodies pile up on the beach, all lies with this propaganda of the left continues. >> you have to give to it van jones because at least he's honest. and i would say normal americans who left their country. he's being honest. and most leftists won't be that honest. they think that way but won't be that honest. look. this is how the left thinks thc
and using the word revenge after the election. this is the left this, is how they thing. van jones quoted as saying talking about overthrowing the free market system in america and broadly in the west. he said, and i quote we're going to change the whole system. we need a new system. what do you think he means by that? >> let me show another cut from the same speech. >> the president puts forward help for veterans. the republican party votes against help for veterans. we don't care...
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here he is. >> they won the election. they must have forgotten that republicans continue to hold the majority in the house, but the president's idea of negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> objection. >> we need to find common ground and find it quickly. >> oh shut up. >> stephanie: common ground -- >> common ground do what i tell you to do. >> stephanie: how about the same thing you just -- >> yeah. >> stephanie: tom [ inaudible ] republican of oklahoma. >> i'm certain if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. this is a compromise on taxes -- >> stephanie: no it's not. and the aforementioned drama queen, lindsay gram. >> i'm pretty sure we have going over the cliff. >> good heavens! >> stephanie: oh, my god! i think we're going over the [ inaudible ] -- [ screaming ] >> stephanie: thank got i still have tara. >> are you implying that lindsay graham has warn pearls in his life? >> stephanie: no! >> his real name is ashley. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: frankly he does give a d
here he is. >> they won the election. they must have forgotten that republicans continue to hold the majority in the house, but the president's idea of negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> objection. >> we need to find common ground and find it quickly. >> oh shut up. >> stephanie: common ground -- >> common ground do what i tell you to do. >> stephanie: how about the same thing you just -- >> yeah. >> stephanie: tom [ inaudible ]...
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a few days before the election he said vote for, quote, revenge. one of his top white house advisors, valerie jarrett, also used the word revenge after the election. this is the left. this is how they think. van jones was quoted as saying, and this is a self avowed communist, by the way, sean, talking about overthrowing the free market system in america and more broadly i in the west, and he said, and i quote. we're going to change the whole system. we need a new system. >> let me show another cut from the same speech where he refers to conservatives and republicans as treasonnists. >> the republican party votes against help for veterans. let the bodies fil pile up on te beach. we don't care how much they suffered. they'll vote against this president. let the bodies pile up on the beach. you were faced with the prospect of that kind of treachery and we beat them. >> let the bodies pile up on the beach. all lies, but this propaganda of the left continues. why? >> you have to give it to van jones because at least he's honest. at least he is giving vo
a few days before the election he said vote for, quote, revenge. one of his top white house advisors, valerie jarrett, also used the word revenge after the election. this is the left. this is how they think. van jones was quoted as saying, and this is a self avowed communist, by the way, sean, talking about overthrowing the free market system in america and more broadly i in the west, and he said, and i quote. we're going to change the whole system. we need a new system. >> let me show...
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the elections accident a clear message. they said meet the new boss instesame as the old boss. same president, same senate, same house. we truly made have will sunk the titanic. we may have put too much hope in human beings could have solved problems in many cases not nearly as booed good at it. you at least balance your checkbook at home and you pay your bills and you show up for work. washington hasn't balanced it's checkbook. it has to borrow money from the chinese to pay its bills. barely shows any real work or progress on our behalf. maybe they just aren't listening to us any more. it occurred to me if they won't listen to us i wonder if they will listen to a stronger voice. i wonder if they will listen to god? walls of water party, or signs and watonders. sometimes you speak them in a still small voice. since the leaders from either party don't seem to listen to us wonder what would happen if we asked god to speak to them so maybe they would listen to him. it may be a good day for somebody to have more of a million voice march on capitol hill. what if millions of american
the elections accident a clear message. they said meet the new boss instesame as the old boss. same president, same senate, same house. we truly made have will sunk the titanic. we may have put too much hope in human beings could have solved problems in many cases not nearly as booed good at it. you at least balance your checkbook at home and you pay your bills and you show up for work. washington hasn't balanced it's checkbook. it has to borrow money from the chinese to pay its bills. barely...
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he was elected on it, it doesn't matter. >> 50% othe vote on it. >> it doesn't matter, you know that as well as i do. it's only political. >> no, no, no, i'm not-- no, i'm not saying that, i'm saying that there's no rational reason. >> let me finish, charlie. >> and what is the rationality ttreat a small business person who makes $250,000 a year and employs ten people just like steve jobs, warren buffett and-- >> and we quibble? >> let me finish. we can quibble about what the right amount is, whether it's $250,000 or whether it's 500,000, what the president is trying to do. >> and for a while, charles, help me with this part of it. whatever your views on taxes, and i think it's happening and ben stein' earlier point, it's there. andeeply disturbing, where is it, not only there's a l lack of result to slowing what is the growth to spend because there's no cutting going on. but we're going to-- and that's what we're going to do and this is the effort and the measure you use to finally get serious. this is not serious. >> warren buffett laid it out on monday in that new york times op-ed
he was elected on it, it doesn't matter. >> 50% othe vote on it. >> it doesn't matter, you know that as well as i do. it's only political. >> no, no, no, i'm not-- no, i'm not saying that, i'm saying that there's no rational reason. >> let me finish, charlie. >> and what is the rationality ttreat a small business person who makes $250,000 a year and employs ten people just like steve jobs, warren buffett and-- >> and we quibble? >> let me finish. we can...
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night that somehow the election of president obama, re-election would not happen because of the economy. he always believed that that would be the issue that determined the election. was it? >> well, the economy was a very large issue. one of the interesting thing that happened was after the democratic convention which was very successful, i'll credit that. the right track of the country began to go up. and those that thought that the president was doing a good job on the economy went up. part of this is the democrats got energized and they were reminded what they liked about the president. of course president clinton did a good job. and the right track wrong track, he was right track of the country wrong track of the country among the electorates that actually voted was about 20 plus points closer than it was at the beginning of the race. so every campaign has to have a theory, and a rationale. and one of the key rationales of this campaign was worst economic crises since the depression, he inherited it but what has he done for it. when you look at the exit polls on those that cared ab
night that somehow the election of president obama, re-election would not happen because of the economy. he always believed that that would be the issue that determined the election. was it? >> well, the economy was a very large issue. one of the interesting thing that happened was after the democratic convention which was very successful, i'll credit that. the right track of the country began to go up. and those that thought that the president was doing a good job on the economy went up....